1984
David and Roger work on their solo records. While Waters continues with « The Final Cut » producer Michael Kamen, 

David takes over from 'The Wall' producer Bob Ezrin (only Andy Jackson worked for both).

« Interview with Richard Ashton and Glenn Povey», Brain Damage Fanzine, September 1987.

I thought it would be counter-productive to listen to his album while I was
making mine. I wanted to keep the competitive aspect of it out my brain

as much as possible. Someone did give me a cassette (…) but I haven’t  actually listened to it yet

« Interview with Richard Ashton and Glenn Povey», Brain Damage Fanzine, September 1987.

I've played with Eric Clapton. He's got every right to do it, 

and Roger had every right to ask him

« Shade of Pink», The Source, April 1984.

We're not splitting up or anything, officially or otherwise, but we just aren't doing anything right now 

« Shade of Pink», The Source, April 1984.


(We are) about as close as we've ever been, which is not terribly close. 

We're not close personal friends, we never have been. We get on alright, really, we have our ups and downs, we fight, but we've always fought 

It features many of the personnel from The Final Cut (and some from Teh Wall): keyboardist Andy Bown, drummer 

Andy Newmark, producer/keyboardist Michael Kamen, Raphael Ravenscroft on saxophone, Ray Cooper. But above all he 

takes Eric Clapton as a substitute for Gilmour. Some journalists see this as an unfriendly gesture towards David 

«Interview avec Roger Waters», Best, Août 1984.

I have no disbanded the group. To be fair, there is no split. We just don’t work together anymore. We have our own carreer who don’t include the other members of the band

Gilmour's tour was disappointing and did not reach the Floyd's popularity heights

«A Saucerful of Secrets », Nicholas Schaffner, 1992


It was depressing for me to go to Birmingham and not sell out one smallish cinema. Similarly round Europe … we sold eight hundred seats in Brussels. It’s dine … if people don’t want it - but I’m not going to keep flogging i

«Roger Waters: non, David Gilmour: mais», Guitares et Claviers, Mai 1984


I did this record and tour to see if it was possible for me to continue

 without the Floyd

On 30 April 1984, Wright and Mason are attented to the Dave’s show at Hammersmith, London. Mason is invited on stage for the fist performance of

Two members of Pink Floyd since there years. But there were no intentions to re-activate the idea to made concerts together anymore.

«David Gilmour's off the wall», Circus, 31 August 1984


Roger and I spoke by phone just as my tour was about to begin. There isn't much danger that the three of us Gilmour, Waters and Mason will be working together in a live situation - not in the near future

On 16 July, while the Gilmour tour ending, the Waters tour begin in Sweden.

« Interview w/. Roger Waters by Bill Padley », Radio Clyde, 10 June 1987

They'd (the promoters) be very interested in a Pink Floyd gig, which is no great surprise to me (…) 

«Saturday Live», BBC 1, 9 June 1984

(But) I thought that in this world people would identify me with the work I did in the Floyd ... but these assholes don't go out and buy tickets. Which surprises me enormously

«Interview w/. Roger Waters», Source unknow, 1984.

There's certainly a huge gap in communicating the fact that my «Pros and Cons » show is a Floyd show except Eric Clapton is playing guitar and Andy Newmark is playing the drums instead of Dave Gilmour and Nick Mason. But everything else is the same: same team doing it, same guys building the sets, same sound system

Waters plays two concerts in London on 21 and 22 June 1984. Mason attended a concert but 

is not invited to play as he took the stage at the end of April to Gilmour concerts !

«Interview with Nick Mason», Juke Magazine, 9 November 1985.

I didn’t like to hear our music being performed by somebody else, i’d rather done it (…) it made me feel bad to watch it

«Interview with David Gilmour », The Amazing Pudding #15, 2 November 1985.

 I nearly went to one ‘cos they opened in upstate New York the night 

after i did the Pier. The last day of my tour was one day before Roger had 

his first show & i’d been out in America for nearly three months & i really wanted to get home & see my kids and everything so i jumped on a plane. To see Roger’s show would have meant awhole extra day hanging around because it was a three hour drive to upstate New York

Roger Waters convened a meeting with David, Nick and Steve O'Rourke about the group's future. This meeting takes place in a Japanese restaurant at the end of 1984. According to the drummer, bassist was the will to clearly dissolve the group (partly to solve his dispute with Steve )

«Gilmour: Full of Secrets», Guitar Part, Décembre 2006


We had a lot of fights where he said , « I 'll leave you » and I answered: « No problem , we will continue without you».  So, Roger said: « you will fail to keep the group united». This is not the kind of stuff he must tell me . It tends to motivate me (...) He said that if we record something without him, he would come , would sit at the back of the studio and he would stare us. Strange statements like that

«Inside out – The Story of Pink Floyd », Nick Mason, 2004.

Roger sees this meeting as duplicity, rather than diplomacy – I disagree. Clearly, our communication skills were still troublingly nonexistent

«Roger Waters Regrets Pink Floyd Legal Battle», Rolling Stones, 19 September 2013.

It's one of the few times that the legal profession has taught me 

something. Because when I went to these chaps and said, « Listen we're broke, this isn't Pink Floyd anymore », they went, « What do you mean? That's irrelevant, it is a label and it has commercial value. You can't say it's going to cease to exist . . . you obviously don't understand English jurisprudence »

«David gilmour – Fini la vie en rose?», Rock & Folk Magazine, June 1984.

Officially, we are still together. It's just that we have nothing planned at the moment. We have more or less pronounced arguments about what we want to do and how to do. But we have always done this in the last 16 years. There have been hundreds of incidents and we had very big arguments about the recording «The Wall» by instance

March 1985. Roger Waters is organising a new leg. On the eve of his new tour CBS sends a letter to Roger asking him if he has plans to release an album of Floyd arguing difficulties in sales of his recent album and tour. In the meantime, Waters multiplied statements indicating that the group is over.

« In the Pink Again», Liverpool Echo, July 1985.

We have not disbanded. Pink Floyd is on the shelf at the moment 

but it may be taken down again at any time. Dave Gilmour who sings on the album is very busy and Roger Waters is writing but we have definitely not killed off Pink Floyd

«Interview w/. Roger Waters», Rock Over London radio, 15 March 1985

I wouldn't have thought so, no. We all have things that we want to do. Nick's just made a movie called "Life Could Be A Dream", which I went and saw which was very nice, which I think is coming out on the TV quite soon. And Dave's thinking of making another album soon, so I think everybody's busy

In July 1985, Gilmour took part in the "live aid" with Bryan Ferry (Waters was backstage and attended Ferry's concert). David, who at the time was thinking of making a third solo record, met Jon Carin on this occasion.  He invited the keyboardist to come and jam with him in his studio. 

It is interesting to see that David also played with Andy Newmark who had just finished the 1985 part of the TP&Cons tour but also Chester Kamen who in 2002 will join Roger Waters on his The Flesh Tour

« In the Pink Again», Liverpool Echo, July 1985.

We have not disbanded. Pink Floyd is on the shelf at the moment 

but it may be taken down again at any time. Dave Gilmour who sings on the album is very busy and Roger Waters is writing but we have definitely not killed off Pink Floyd

29 July 1985, Nick Mason and Rick Feen release their LP « Profiles » who feature David Gilmour on vocals for « Lie for a lie ». It’s the first recording with members of Floyd since 2 years.

«Interview with David Gilmour », The Amazing Pudding #15, November 2nd 1985.


 I like the track that i sang on a lot and i like the B-side but i haven’t heard the rest of it actually Nick hasn’t sent me the album yet 

«Pink Floyd, The Inside Story », Rolling Stone, 19 November1987

I've certainly enjoyed working with Rick (Fenn). I think it's useful and important to change the people you work with. You get so stuck in certain patterns. You know: Roger will do this and Dave will do that and ... well, you can go and make the tea, Nick! 

At the middle of 1985, As rumours of a split spread in the press, the members did not endorse the idea of a split, even if it appears that the Floyd members let it show that it is impossible to continue together

« The return of the Pink partners », Birmingham Evening Mail, 11 September 1985.

But I think that we will be playing together again. The band is  still very

Important to me. There is still a tremendous loyalty towards Pink Floyd, and I do not think that you can just ignore that. Pink Floyd is something that neither of  us would want  to wash our hands of  and I hope that at some point we will do another album

«Interview w/. Roger Waters», Rock Over London radio, 15 March 1985

I (don’t) have thought so, no. We all have things that we want to do. 

Nick's just made a movie called « Life Could Be A Dream », which I went 

and saw which was very nice, which I think is coming out on the TV quite soon. And Dave's thinking of making another album soon, so I think everybody's busy

But, at the end of 1985, Roger Waters is contacted to work on the soundtrack of an anti- nuclear cartoon : «When the Wind Blows». It seems that the release of the soundtrack is why Roger Waters became more radical towards his situatio among the band Although Nick and Dave indicate to the press Pink Floyd still exist all along the year 1985, on 1st December 1985, Roger issued a statement to EMI and CBS invoking the Leaving Member' clause on his contract

«Interview of Pink Floyd by R. Ashton and G.Povey », Brain Damage WebSite, September 1987

The real problem is that there is no problem. It goes back, well, you know 

the whole «When The Wind Blows» thing? The situation is, is that Virgin 

wanted to release the soundtrack, and in order to do so, CBS or EMI made him sign a piece of paper on the case saying essentially, if you want to put this soundtrack out on another label, not to interfere with Pink Floyd being Pink Floyd, or pursuing any activities in the name of Pink Floyd, which Roger signed and agreed to. So, although there is still a court case, it really is all over (…) It’s like Peter Gabriel leaving Genesis. No one turns around to the others and says to them you can't be Genesis anymore

« The rightful heir? », Q Magazine #48, September 1990.


(…) We didn't throw Roger out, we didn't do anything to Roger. He left Pink Floyd. He sent a letter to CBS in America and EMI here saying he'd left Pink Floyd - it was quite clear and unequivocal. He didn't tell us - we only found out when we got a copy of the letter from the record company.  He left, and we wanted to carry on with our careers. It's as simple as that

«Interview w/. Roger Waters», Rock Over London radio, 15 March 1985

(…) My idea was that we should go our separate ways. What actually happened was, the reason that I finally left, signed the letter saying « I’m leaving the band », evoking my leaving member clause, was because they threatened me with the fact that we had a contract with CBS Records and that part of the contract could be construed to mean that we had a product commitment with CBS and if we didn’t go on producing product, they could (a) sue us and (b) withhold royalties on that product if we didn’t make any more records. I said, « That’s ridiculous. We’d never have signed a contract like that ». They showed me the clause, and it was ambivalent. So they said, « That’s what the record company are going to do and the rest of the band are going to sue you for their legal expenses and any loss of earnings because you’re the one that’s preventing the band from making more records ». They forced me to resign from the band because, if I hadn’t, the financial repercussions would have wiped me out completely

«Pink Floyd – The Inside Story », The Rolling Stone , November 1987.


We never assumed that it was defunct (...) We couldn't keep issuing press statements saying, «No, we haven't split up». It wasn't worth the bother. Our assumption – my assumption, anyway – was that we would do another record

The activation of this clause looks like a de facto bluff to act out the end of the group. Not believing that David and Nick could continue the band's adventure, Roger has de facto self-assumed the right to take over the band.

«Pink Floyd – The Inside Story », The Rolling Stone , November 1987.


We'd been having these meetings in which Roger said, « I'm not working 

with you guys again ». He'd say to me, « Are you going to carry on? » And I'd say, quite honestly, « I don't know. But when we're good and ready, I'll tell everyone what the plan is. And we'll get on with it ». 

I think partly his letter was to gear us up into doing something 

On early 1986 Waters saw that his management contract binding him O'Rourke ended. He would resign with a new contract with the latter holding that there was no future for the group and therefore no longer wished to donate his share of royalties to the manager. 

Steve O'Rourke found that the contract was broken illegally; Indeed, the signing of the four was required that this be to extend or reject the management contract, or other members could not bring himself to break it.


« Pink Floyd, The End … », Mojo, November 2014.

Roger thought we were all going to call it day while David

I thought Roger was going to call it a day and we were going to carry on

«Pink Floyd – The Inside Story », The Rolling Stone  Magazine, November 1987.

(I said:) « Listen, guys, if those papers come through my door, we all go 

to court.  I am not going to be hung to dry in court for years and years while you guys are calling yourselves Pink Floyd »

As of February, while waiting to see what David and Nick would eventually do, Roger wants to pre-empt Bob Ezrin for his future project «Radio KAOS», also to cut off the possibility for David to lean on a competent producer who helped him finish his last solo record «About Face».

The strategic dimension appears to be decisive since the ex-Floyd frontman had blacklisted the Canadian producer at the very beginning of «The Wall» tour and had chosen Michael Kamen to produce the two following records («The Final Cut» and «The pros and cons of hitch-hiking»)

«Interview w/. Roger Waters »,Penthouse Magazine, September 1988.

I was in Los Angeles in the midst of a Rod Stewart album when Roger 

called from London in February of '86, and I set two days aside at Roger's insistence and we met each other halfway, both of us flying to New York to talk about «KAOS»

«Interview w/. Roger Waters »,Penthouse Magazine, September 1988.

At the time I met with Roger, I said I wanted to do the album, but I had 

an instinctive sense that he was being too rigid and intense in his attitudes about the project. And believe me, I know how rigid Roger can get from doing «The Wall» with him

«Interview w/. Roger Waters »,Penthouse Magazine, September 1988.

We met in New York City in February of 1986. This was after Gilmour 

had been spouting for a year about how wise it would be to get Pink Floyd back together in any passable form with me always refusing that scam. 

So I see Ezrin for a two-day meeting and give him cassettes of the « KAOS » material I'm working on. He said he was interested in doing the record. We shook on the « KAOS » agreement, and we agreed to start work in England on April 16 of 1986

Come early April, Waters found it impossible to contact Bob Ezrin.

«Interview w/. Roger Waters »,Penthouse Magazine, September 1988.

See, Roger was completely inflexible about when and where he wanted 

to do «KAOS». I have five kids, and he was wanting to move my whole family 

to England for a minimum of three months. My wife was against it because she felt it would disrupt our children's school schedule. And so after I thought it through, I exercised my right as a potential employee of Roger's to decline

«Interview w/. Roger Waters »,Penthouse Magazine, September 1988.

I couldn't reach him.Then, exactly ten days before my first scheduled «KAOS» session in England, I manage to catch him at home in the wee 

hours of the morning. He picks up the phone, is startled to find it's me on the other end, and he blurts out. My wife says she'll divorce me if I go work in England!» I was stunned. I said, «Couldn't you have told me that three months ago ?» I'm in a state of shock, and the minute I put the phone down after the conversation, my wife Carolyn says to me, «I'll bet he's going to do that pseudo-Pink Floyd record David wants »All I could reply was, «I can't believe he'd do that». I discovered exactly one week later that he had indeed been hired to do a Pink Floyd record 

O'Rourke was preparing to continue Waters about the management contract that bound them and the payment of overdue royalties. Indeed, Waters left the semi-official way group (he’s still in the management structure) but does not pay his share to O'Rourke because no longer produced anything under the name Pink Floyd.  Waters saw that his management contract binding him O'Rourke ended. He would re-sign with a new contract with the latter holding that there was no future for the group and therefore no longer wished to donate his share of royalties to the manager. O'Rourke found that the contract was broken illegally; Indeed, the signing of the four was required that this be to extend or reject the management contract, or other members could not bring himself to break it. Waters then offered a series of compromises even leading him to give the benefit of the group name to other members if they agreed that he resigns of his contract. Mason tells in his book dinner at Roger for all they land Steve O'Rourke home Floyd. By doing this, Waters took a calculated risk, believing that Gilmour and Mason would never have dared continue without him.

Waters later admitted a certain inconsistency during this period. He was indeed suing the two musicians for the use of the name of the group whereas he had proposed a little earlier to leave them. But he had done it «to be finally quiet».

«Pink Floyd – The Inside Story », The Rolling Stone , November 1987.


We never assumed that it was defunct (...) We couldn't keep issuing press statements saying, «No, we haven't split up». It wasn't worth the bother. Our assumption – my assumption, anyway – was that we would do another record

«Pink Floyd – The Inside Story », The Rolling Stone  Magazine, November 1987.

Don't ask me why they never took that deal !